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Lyndi

Okay. I would like to tell you, your your weight is not the problem. It really isn't. I know you've been made to think your weight is a problem your entire life, but honestly, it's just been a red herring making you focus on diets that really suck and your weight is not. The problem is the title of my new book and I would really like you to read it if you've ever been made to feel like you need to worry about your weight that you're fixating on your weight is going to help you lose weight, which is nonsense.

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Lyndi

This is the book you need to read. We tackle body image. We help you with practical strategies to feel normal, relaxed, and freedom around food, which are all fabulous things you also deserve. Please go to my website, Lyndi Cohen dot com and check out my new book. It's available from all great retailers. Please check it out. Oh, hey everyone and welcome to today's episode of No Wellness.

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Lyndi

I agree. I Lyndi Cohen, your dietitian, nutritionist and your hater of all things wellness, Wankery. And of course, I'm joined by my fabulous co-host, Jenna D’Apice.

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Jenna

Hello. Yes, welcome back to Know Wellness Wankery. Now, today, we wanted to I think we've talked a lot about other people's experiences, binge eating and my experiences, but I don't think on the podcast we've spoken about your experiences. Lyndi Mm hmm.

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Lyndi

And you know, I have talked about my story many times, but I don't think I've ever really got into so much detail about the binge eating recovery part of it. And I think when you're in recovery yourself, hearing other people's stories, things that helped, things that made it tricky is really important.

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Jenna

And just knowing that because all of these things, as we said before, it is a it happens in private, it happens in secret. And it's so easy to think everyone else has it together. Why don't I have together? Why am I doing this? No one else is doing it. And it's just nice to hear other people are doing the exact same thing that you are doing.

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Lyndi

And I think that's just a beautiful way to lead into this idea. Firstly, the first thing to know about binge eating is it's an incredibly normal, common natural response to restriction in the form of, you know, either going on a physical diet, being like a tonic, these foods, or simply telling yourself, Oh, I should try and be good.

00:02:02:15 - 00:02:19:17

Lyndi

These things are going to trigger binge eating. And the majority of people I speak to know what it's like to experience a binge. For some reason we think it's this little problem that only a small number of people are affected by that or maybe only we are affected by. But it's the most common eating disorder by a landslide.

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Lyndi

And even those you know, there's a whole bunch of people who perhaps can't be diagnosed as having binge eating disorder, but experience binge eating quite frequently. And that's a thing for them. They might just go, Oh, I feel out of control around food. I can't stop eating. I don't know what's wrong with me. You might not even realise you have binge eating until listening to this episode.

00:02:37:20 - 00:02:49:02

Lyndi

And if so, I'm glad because you can you can stop binge eating. It's not something I think. I think I remember of feeling like, oh, I'm going to binge forever. This is just who I am. I can't fix this.

00:02:50:01 - 00:03:07:20

Jenna

There's something wrong with me. There's something wrong with me. I'd always feel like every Sunday I would just eat too much and I would try again better on Monday. And that's just what I would do for the rest of my life, because it it doesn't feel like you have any control over it. So if you have no control over it, how can you stop it?

00:03:08:11 - 00:03:17:13

Jenna

Like it's like in your subconscious mind. But good news is you can. So I thought I'd start with just tell us a little bit about your story.

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Lyndi

Yes, let's start at the beginning. I'm sorry if you have heard the story a million times, but I will start it probably, I think started when I was put on my first diet at 11. So just to recap, I was 11. I went to a nutritionist for no reason other than the fact that I wasn't thin. So I was she's she's like, you're well within your healthy weight range, your BMI.

00:03:38:15 - 00:03:46:19

Lyndi

I don't need to put you on a diet. But yet she proceeded to put me on a diet. So she's like, this is a healthy eating plan.

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Jenna

Yes.

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Lyndi

That you have to weigh all your food and calculate everything you eat. And it's calorie controlled and you have to come back to me regularly for weigh in so I can see how you're progressing. And so began the beginning of my diet journey and I became really diligent at following these diets. I can't remember at what point I had my first binge, but it wouldn't have been too soon after, because when you're trying to control everything you're eating and generally under eating because, you know, I don't know how many calories I was on as an 11 year old, but it would have been pretty low these days.

00:04:25:22 - 00:04:46:16

Lyndi

The common things that we put people in the way, but diet industry put people on a 1200 calorie diet, which is how much energy a toddler requires to just get through their day or a 1500 calorie diet. And these are statistically this is of far less food than you actually need to survive and thrive. Actually, it's bare minimum.

00:04:46:16 - 00:05:11:03

Lyndi

Really. Yeah. And all the research that we kind of look at goes well, when someone is in this state of this kind of calorie deprivation of under eating, the food preoccupation starts to happen. Food obsession. You can't stop thinking about food. When you do eat the food, it's highly palatable and you crave it so much. And and then and then the dopamine response you get when you do eat that food is is like a party in your brain compared to before you eliminated that food.

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Lyndi

So it's creating this perfect storm of binge eating. So it's so natural then that me calculating how much I was trying to eat. And then on top of this, I'm so hungry, I'm going through puberty. Yeah, you're.

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Jenna

Hungry. You probably doing activities and sports and you're hungry?

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Lyndi

Totally. I was. And I really needed a more food. And I look at my, like 45 grams of breakfast cereal that I was allowed. Have you ever went? Yeah, that's a sweet.

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Jenna

Grams of breakfast. Cereal is such a small amount.

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Lyndi

Lies that this is a serving size slice, you know, I mean, I if you're hungry in the morning, you need to eat far more than that suggested serving size that's in a side note anyway so I soon I'm pretty sure I started binge eating soon after. But I think the way that binge eating often happens and what happens to me is I began binging progressively more and more.

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Lyndi

So maybe it was once off it would happen and then I'd feel like, Oh, I've got to get back on track, and maybe I could actually get back on track. But with time, the hotter I, the longer I dieted, the more frequent the binge eating became so that it was once a month, and then it became once a week, and then it was once a day.

00:06:20:01 - 00:06:39:15

Lyndi

And then it was multiple times a day. And I think what's really important is the things that we often think of when we've been in binge eating. I was like, Okay, I'm going to try harder to fix my binge eating by compensating for all the food I just eat. Yeah. You know, so. So we'd look like, let's let's paint a picture of what a binge would look like.

00:06:39:15 - 00:07:03:07

Lyndi

For me, it was probably peak around like 16, 17, especially if I was going through like a hard phase at school. Things would happen. I come home after a day of I'd walk myself to school, I'd have a tuna salad for lunch. I'd have like a very calorie controlled snack for morning tea. I wouldn't let myself have an afternoon tea and I'd be so hungry.

00:07:03:07 - 00:07:18:05

Lyndi

By the time I got home, I forced myself to walk home, which is like an hour and a half walk home so that I'd burn more energy. And by the time I got home, if no one was home, that was like prime situation for me to binge eat. And then it was like a cat start off trying to eat healthily.

00:07:18:05 - 00:07:27:10

Lyndi

So I'd be like, maybe I should have some yogurt with some berries. Okay, cool. I'd finish that. And then I was like, I can't eat anything else, but maybe I'll just have this.

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Jenna

And then it was maybe I'll just have this. Yes.

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Lyndi

Comparison and then, oh, that really didn't satisfy. Maybe I'll have a piece of bread, you know, but I'll just have one piece and then it becomes two pieces and then it becomes peanut butter straight from the jar. And then it's I'm like searching. I know that there's like a hidden, a hidden cow cupboard where all the treats, like, kept out that my family have hidden from me but everyone else's.

00:07:52:01 - 00:08:01:11

Lyndi

Somehow medicine knows I've got to, like, scurry into, like, the laundry where mom's, like, packed it up, like, on the highest shelf and, like, standing up there, like, perch, like a possum.

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Jenna

No one's going to come find me. And then it makes you feel terrible about yourself that you like. So wild for this food.

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Lyndi

Wild. You're like a crazy person. I feel like a crazy person that is like. And then. And then there's the equation in my mind, as in binge eating, being like, okay, well, how much of this can I eat before it becomes really obvious that I've really dug into this? How am I going to replace this package of this package?

00:08:26:18 - 00:08:43:19

Lyndi

Is replacing is it better if I just eat the whole thing? So then there isn't just like a little bit left so that it's less obvious. Maybe I could go to the shops tomorrow that I can replace the thing that I'm about to binge eat. And it's that whole equation, empty wrappers. Where do I put them? How do I discard them in the way that no one's going to actually find them?

00:08:44:22 - 00:08:48:13

Jenna

I feel, yes, it even feels good to get that off your chest.

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Lyndi

Sure does.

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Jenna

What do you think is the main difference between binge eating and emotional eating and overeating? Mm.

00:08:56:10 - 00:09:22:19

Lyndi

So good to know this. Okay, so, so binge eating is so it is can be diagnosed as an eating disorder. You can binge without having a binge eating disorder. But once it starts to happen more than once a week for three months, then we start to get into diagnostic kind of area and a binge looks like eating way more than you normally would in a normal setting, feeling guilt or shame or remorse after eating it.

00:09:23:08 - 00:09:44:13

Lyndi

And it's often followed, but not essential by compensatory behaviours. So by trying to undo the next day, which only fulfills another binge, it's so. So what's a binge to me might be different from what's a binge to you, but this sense of out of control illness, it's really that's really different. So these days, you know, I think emotional eating is quite different.

00:09:44:13 - 00:10:09:24

Lyndi

So emotional eating is something had happened to me or something could happen to me and I'm going to eat and it's going to make me feel better. Now we all do some degree of emotional eating that's totally normal. We're emotional creatures and we use food for coping. So that's perfectly fine. The question is, is it just one part of your coping strategy or is it, you know, do you have other coping methods that you have but emotional eating is like especially at the moment where I have emotional eating every few months.

00:10:09:24 - 00:10:27:04

Lyndi

I might be like, I had a really hard day. I'm going to go grab. The other day I had like, Oh, like a Nutella donut. And I went and got Nutella donut and I was like, I had a really hard day. I said that I ate it and I finish it and I felt good. It felt like it felt cathartic and it ended there.

00:10:27:13 - 00:10:27:24

Jenna

Yeah.

00:10:27:24 - 00:10:37:22

Lyndi

You know, that was it was. And I could say to my husband, oh, this really feel like emotionally eating right now. That's okay. And then I did. And you know, I know it was a very it's a.

00:10:37:22 - 00:10:39:11

Jenna

Very, very different experience.

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Lyndi

Very different. So when it starts to feel like it's land sliding, that might be when it becomes a binge. And it all exists on a continuum, on a spectrum of like healthy eating to binge eating kind of, yeah. So it's important, you know, kind of going, well, maybe maybe you have some binge eating in your life. And I think it's really important that we understand what causes binge eating, because then we can go, Oh, Jacqui, how can we impact on binge eating?

00:11:05:21 - 00:11:27:03

Lyndi

What causes binge eating is two main things. One is the remorse in the guilt, the shame you feel afterwards. So the beating yourself up about it, that's really important to try interrupts because every time you say so, let's say I'm someone who's a normal healthy either. But give me that example of like me emotionally eating after I had the donut, I didn't go home, drive home and go.

00:11:27:03 - 00:11:28:08

Lyndi

I can't believe I ate that.

00:11:28:08 - 00:11:31:09

Jenna

Yeah. You didn't attach the guilt and shame to it. You just moved on.

00:11:31:11 - 00:11:32:10

Lyndi

I was like, that was great.

00:11:32:10 - 00:11:34:02

Jenna

I was I enjoyed the donut. It was.

00:11:34:02 - 00:11:55:02

Lyndi

Delicious. And I do feel better and that's really nice. We don't do that with binge eating often. We, we, we go, That was awful. I have to stop doing that. And the more we shame ourselves around it socially, we're putting ourselves in the worse position mood wise, which can be a trigger for binge eating as well. So we're not helping that cause, but we're also probably more likely to than to compensatory behaviour.

00:11:55:08 - 00:12:14:12

Lyndi

So that's the risk. What, until there's restriction. So you might go, alright, well tomorrow I'm going to change how I eat. I'm going to eat really light or I'm to a maybe I should just cut out carbohydrates or maybe I should just control my portion sizes or whatever it is. We always try and get to go what am I going to do to fix this?

00:12:14:12 - 00:12:32:06

Lyndi

I'm going to weigh myself. I'm going to take unflattering before and after photos of myself to like shame myself into doing action. I'm going to sign up to something. So this compensatory behaviour in the diet is brain. We're like, okay, this is helpful. This helps me stop binge eating. If I didn't do this, my, my, my weight would balloon.

00:12:32:06 - 00:12:34:16

Jenna

I would keep going. I would just keep bingeing forever.

00:12:34:16 - 00:12:57:19

Lyndi

Yes. These food rules that I've applied, they are the very thing, the last thing that's keeping me tethered in some way. And I guess what I need you to understand is what if they're not? What if this very thing that you think is helping you feel controlled around food is the very thing that's causing this out of control eating and that these compensatory behaviours, if they worked, why would you be bingeing more and more?

00:12:58:14 - 00:13:12:02

Lyndi

You know, this strategy is clearly you're in this cycle in we can see the trajectory. You keep trying really hard to compensate for that binge and now you're binging more than you probably ever have. Feeling more crazy around food, more out of control around food.

00:13:12:02 - 00:13:13:23

Jenna

And it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse and worse.

00:13:14:04 - 00:13:15:09

Lyndi

Let's try the opposite.

00:13:15:09 - 00:13:22:09

Jenna

Let's try the opposite. Well, I'm assuming you did try the opposite. Like, what was the key to your recovery?

00:13:22:09 - 00:13:44:23

Lyndi

Okay. So after I got to 21 years old, so yes, ten years into my dieting career and I was 21 standing, I trying to get an outfit for a friend's 25 standing and looking in the mirror at a Vinnies, which is a secondhand shop. Anyone inside Australia and I was, I hated myself.

00:13:44:24 - 00:13:45:09

Jenna

Yeah.

00:13:45:15 - 00:14:11:04

Lyndi

You know, I hated my body, but I hated who I was. Because when you are binge eating, I think it also relates to the sense of your sense of self is quite questioned because I don't you believe I don't have willpower, I didn't have self-control. I'm a failure. I can't even get this thing right. You know, the rest of your life can be completely sorted, but if you're binge eating, you feel like you're completely failing at everything.

00:14:11:04 - 00:14:11:20

Lyndi

And so I feel that.

00:14:11:20 - 00:14:31:07

Jenna

Because I even I think when I was growing up, I would see people that probably had other eating disorders, but they were in really thin bodies. So they were like celebrated. And I and I was at the point where I could see I have eating disordered eating as well, and I'm suffering just as much as them, but I'm not even doing that right.

00:14:31:18 - 00:14:47:17

Lyndi

So I fail to get by eating, just failing at my eating disorder. It's so disordered, isn't it so bad? I think we need to get to a point in society where we see someone in the larger body and we don't assume it's poor willpower or self-control or laziness. We go, there's disordered eating there and then absolutely there's disordered eating there.

00:14:47:17 - 00:15:08:12

Lyndi

Is that not something that's obvious to all of us anyway? Apparently not. We're going to get that points. But here I was staring at myself, filled with self-loathing, and I couldn't find anything to wear. A feeling that I was very familiar with. But this time something clicked. I just thought I was. I was close to tears. I jumped into my car and I burst into tears.

00:15:08:12 - 00:15:29:04

Lyndi

I just started bawling. I drove directly to my GP. I waited for the first appointment with whatever GP was available at that medical center. I went in to see him. I explained my problems. I probably skirted around it, you know. Yeah, I think I probably was as forthright. I was pretty ashamed about his behaviour. It was something I kept hidden from everyone in my.

00:15:29:04 - 00:15:32:07

Lyndi

It was like there was no one I told apart from, like, my journal.

00:15:32:19 - 00:15:33:00

Jenna

Yeah.

00:15:33:12 - 00:15:46:10

Lyndi

Which by the way, for one year when I was probably like 58, I kept a journal every day where I forced myself to record the depths of my binge eating so I'd have to force myself. It's like a shame strategy to.

00:15:46:10 - 00:15:47:08

Jenna

Write down what.

00:15:47:19 - 00:16:04:08

Lyndi

I'd eaten as a way to kind of like, try and motivate me to do better the next day. And it's basically just a catalog of my disordered eating. And I'd record my weight and say, awful things to myself. But it was anyway, what I'm saying is that binge eating was very secret. He's the first person I'm ever telling you about.

00:16:04:08 - 00:16:27:07

Lyndi

I have binge eating too. And he says, How about you try this new diet that my wife is currently having success, success with? And I like to think that that was a moment that I thought, Hmm, this isn't right. I know you're a doctor. I know I'm meant to trust you, but surely you can't be telling me. I just need to try harder because I've tried.

00:16:27:07 - 00:16:41:00

Lyndi

I have tried for ten years. I have tried more than anyone I've know. This is occupied my brain. This is this is my very essence. This is I've I've become a dietitian because I've decided that this is the way that I'm going to finally control my binge eating.

00:16:41:01 - 00:16:43:05

Jenna

And, you know, you try as hard as you possibly can.

00:16:43:07 - 00:16:44:13

Lyndi

You had here you are.

00:16:45:03 - 00:16:46:14

Jenna

Saying try harder.

00:16:46:14 - 00:17:13:02

Lyndi

Try harder. And I think eclipse would be then. So he recommends that I go on anti-anxiety medication, which I did and was very grateful for because it was very hard for me to come onto those and that medication. And I left this doctor's appointment not knowing I had binge eating disorder. It wasn't yet added as part of the diagnostic criteria, so it didn't even exist as as an eating disorder, which shows how, how much progress we still need to make in the US.

00:17:13:02 - 00:17:34:05

Lyndi

We're still very much in the early days of helping people with binge eating. So I remember crying a lot. I drove to my parents to go and tell them about this kind of anxiety diagnosis and they were too busy at the time to help me. So then I drove home by myself, feeling like the most alone that I've ever felt.

00:17:34:05 - 00:17:52:01

Lyndi

But I remember there was a line in the sand after that day. I saw that if I kept trying this approach of trying to be good and obsessing over food, I was great, you know? You know what it is? I was propelled by weight. I was like, okay, I see. I'm gaining more and more weight. And gaining weight was the scariest thing to me as a diet.

00:17:52:01 - 00:18:11:17

Lyndi

It's like that was the last thing I wanted, so I kind of used that. I was like, Well, I see. If I keep doing this, I'm going to keep gaining weight. So what if I did the opposite? And even if that's going to be a motivation, I don't care. Because if it's going to get you to stop dieting, then you're going to be able to see yourself from that thinking, don't do it to lose weight.

00:18:12:02 - 00:18:18:20

Jenna

But if it's going to give you that little bit of breathing space to see out of the diet for one split second.

00:18:18:20 - 00:18:36:17

Lyndi

Yeah, let it let it let it motivate you. Yes. Let the thing that controlled you your entire life give you something in return and I was like, okay, well, what if I did the opposite? What if I stopped trying to control what I ate and I did this? No one was really talking about this at the time. There was no binge eating specialist dieticians.

00:18:36:17 - 00:18:59:13

Lyndi

I could see I was a 21 year old who couldn't afford to go see a specialist. Anyways, I did ask my parents to go see a psychologist, which I ended up going to see the wrong psychologists. Yes, I went to go see someone that my parents had found through their friends, and we had some sessions where it was, you know, my parents and I to try and talk about like how I was feeling, shamed about food and controlled around food.

00:18:59:22 - 00:19:14:22

Lyndi

And those sessions didn't go well because it was basically the the psychologist was like a 50 year old woman who shared the same, you know, belief systems that my parents did, which is that if you don't control what your daughter eats, she's going to spiral.

00:19:14:22 - 00:19:15:08

Jenna

Yeah.

00:19:15:08 - 00:19:33:12

Lyndi

And so wasn't helpful. So my advice there is to find a good psychologist. When you're in this, you realise, I need to sort this out. Go find a psychologist and find someone who go to the website and do you resonate with them? You can even like sometimes a psychologist, they'll let you have like a little chat, a lot like a phone call to be like, do we connect?

00:19:33:12 - 00:19:36:21

Lyndi

Are we the right for each other? I want them to be a specialist binge eating.

00:19:36:22 - 00:19:55:02

Jenna

You have a lot more options now. I know even like if you're a younger person and you are into social media and that type of thing, then the psychologist would probably have a social media too. And you can look at them, get a little glimpse into their world because it's a very scary thing to take the plunge to go.

00:19:55:08 - 00:20:01:05

Jenna

So you want to kind of like check your bases first. They make you feel so much more comfortable and wanting to go, Yes.

00:20:01:18 - 00:20:16:17

Lyndi

I recently had a client, so I've got this program called Keep It Real Program. So if if you realise that you are struggling with binge eating, I would love to help you inside this program. It's everything that I wish I knew when I was recovering from binge eating program. It gives you a step by step approach, which I never, ever had.

00:20:16:17 - 00:20:38:01

Lyndi

I was just trying to work the last myself, but one of my clients in that she came to me and said, I've seen the psychologist. The psychologist has told me to record what I eat. And she gave some other advice, said like alarm bells went off in my mind and I was like, this doesn't sound right. This is a psychologist who says that she's, you know, absent and prepared to deal with this kind of problem.

00:20:38:01 - 00:20:53:15

Lyndi

But I'm a specialist in this specific area, and I'm telling you that this is the absolute wrong approach. So then I called the psychologist with the with the permission of my clients in the program, and I said, hey, we've got to talk this out. This is a conflict because I think you're you're basically creating more of an issue.

00:20:54:00 - 00:21:22:15

Lyndi

And it was really clear to me that this person, the psychologist, had really good intentions but really didn't know what they were doing with binge eating. And they were just trying to go and apply like an approach, a diet approach really to try and recover from binge eating. So this is really important that you're having the right team around you who really specialized in binge eating because doing traditional, you know, following traditional advice like what we see everywhere else is going to actually make binge eating so much worse.

00:21:22:15 - 00:21:44:17

Lyndi

So finding a psychologist who says, I specialize in binge eating important finding a dietitian who specializes in binge eating. Now you can go and see someone one on one, which I think is a brilliant idea. Once again, that specialist eating disorder, specialist, dietitian or nutritionist. But they really have to has the experience in it. And of course, I have my Keep It Real program, which I would you know, that's another option as well.

00:21:45:18 - 00:22:01:15

Lyndi

But I want you to build a team around you, a team where you can start to talk about your binge eating and what it is and how to recover from it. Because I didn't have that. And that's why it took me so many years to recover, because I was really just trying to do my own research. And and you can also do that.

00:22:01:15 - 00:22:03:18

Lyndi

You can also. But it will take time.

00:22:03:21 - 00:22:21:20

Jenna

It will take time. And I think it also takes a long time to even realise you have a problem in the first place, because if you're you're not born with knowledge about binge eating, so as you but you're basically born into the world of diet culture. So it's automatically giving you messages that you just need to try harder.

00:22:21:22 - 00:22:34:04

Jenna

Other people can do it. It's willpower, it's not use. So if you've already stumbled across this podcast and you haven't heard it before, amazing. Because maybe we can save you a few years of not knowing that this is even a thing.

00:22:34:05 - 00:22:48:20

Lyndi

Exactly. And you don't need to wait until you can be diagnosed with binge eating disorder to get help, even if you're like, okay, well, I've had a few binges, a handful of binges, or it's something that's happening. And I'm noticing and I'm getting a bit worried that it's kind of becoming a thing. The earlier we intervene, the better.

00:22:49:18 - 00:23:09:08

Lyndi

But left untreated, binge eating gets worse. Yeah, because following traditional advice does aggravated and make it make it more of a problem. So it's just a question to use. At what point are you willing to seek support and what's that going to look like if you haven't yet read my book? I do think reading my book Your Weight is Not a problem is also just a really nice entry.

00:23:09:08 - 00:23:29:08

Lyndi

Weight. Understand some of the key concepts. It is also like an affordable way to kind of really get that entry into understanding it because recovery from eating sort of disordered eating can be expensive and I'm fully aware of that, which is there's heaps of free resources on my website as well. We have this podcast because as someone who's been there, I really, I really care about helping you.

00:23:29:20 - 00:23:32:00

Lyndi

I know how lonely it is. Yes.

00:23:32:13 - 00:23:35:13

Jenna

Thank you so much for sharing with us.

00:23:35:16 - 00:23:52:17

Lyndi

With pleasure. It's been such a pleasure. I hope everyone feels like this is not something that you have to feel ashamed about, that you realise that it's a really common response and that you realise that dieting will make it worse. It won't help you control your binge eating. Thanks for listening everyone. I hope you enjoyed today's podcast of No Wellness.

00:23:52:17 - 00:24:12:03

Lyndi

Wankery I would really appreciate if you could write this podcast. I'm I'm dead keen on getting rid of diet culture and helping to eliminate it. But when they're so loud, it's we need a lot of us to try and champion on diet messaging. So if you can hop on over to wherever you're listening to this podcast and write it off, I stop.

00:24:12:03 - 00:24:35:13

Lyndi

You realise I'd be so grateful. Hey, everyone. And before we get started in the podcast episode, I just want to tell you a little bit about how I might be able to help you if you want to get a healthy relationship pursued because oh my goodness, there's a whole lot of stuff that's working against us all the time.

00:24:35:13 - 00:24:52:16

Lyndi

Hello, diet culture. So if you ever want to do a little bit more personalized support, check out my program. Keep it real. Especially if you're struggling with binge eating. If you feel like every Monday you're starting from scratch, if you feel like you know what you should be eating, but you just can't stick to it if you feel like you want to eat healthier.

00:24:52:16 - 00:25:15:03

Lyndi

But honestly, it just feels like you're out of control through your face planting into the fridge. All the pantry I can help. I used to be a binge eater. I really to. I do get it. So check out keep it really use the code podcast to get 20% off if you if you get it via the the website and also I've also got my I called back to basics back to basics is an app to help you be healthy without dieting and will help you work in your body.

00:25:15:03 - 00:25:36:12

Lyndi

Image gives you a whole bunch of hundreds of recipes that are super quick and easy to make so you can just be healthy without having to get obsessed with that at all, without it taking over your life, because that's the way it should be. Plus, you get mindset support. For me inside the app. You also get a whole bunch of workouts that you can do at home, or you can still just do your normal workouts.

00:25:36:21 - 00:25:49:05

Lyndi

But check out back to basics. You can get it for free for seven days. Check out Back to Basics on my website, use the Code Again podcast to get 20% off. And I'd love to see in there I'd love to see in there. I'd love to see an.